What is eternity but timelessness?

Well if a person ends up in hell, I bet there definition of eternity, is much different than someone who doesnt.

JayD sponsors this thought:

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If a man seeks to find the will of God, its in the scripture.

JayD, that the one true God that so loved the world would limit the revelation of his will to a book, a book made scarce in many places in this world he so loves, a book left unread by those who cannot read for whatever reasons, a book when in that very book itself we do read that Peter said about leaving, not a document but the person of Jesus Christ, where else would we go, YOU ALONE have the words of eternal life...a book that again states that man shall live by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God... a book that says that this God writes his laws on the tablets of men's hearts! Heck, JayD, this book that says that believers are called the living letters for others to read, ought it not be then said that God's will can also be found by the lives lived that love and believe this God and His Son?

And again JayD offers :

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I dont claim to know what eternity will be like. But from a biblical account, your either really happy, or really sad. I for one am not taking the chance.

I see something else, but not to go off topic perhaps I will post later, that ...but for now, JayD, I would love to recommend a book to you. Actually two: The Ragaumuffin Gospel or The Relentless Tenderness of Jesus, both written by Brennan Manning. Manning was a great inspiration to Rich Mullins and continues to be, to Michael W. Smith.

And sweet as can be, JayD very politely shares:

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It would seem to me, that perhaps you are having a problem with homosexual feelings. Forgive me if that assumption is wrong

I nearly was not going to address that. But I am to tell you that not everyone who cares to see the gay community know public acceptance and religous affirmation is gay him or herself. I think that is important and that is why I disclose to you now, no...I do not have homosexual feelings.
But because I do not, I am not made safer or more fit for eternity, nor do I have more to offer the world around me than those who are gay.

JayD, I disagree with you on a few things, but have to say, I truly enjoy reading your posts for how your words carry a civil tone to them. Thank you for that.

JayD, I did start a thread that was meant for discussing sexual ethics in general, rather than focusing on the gay issues. I believe that would be a good place to post your own principles and practices in regard to this seemingly popular topic. Perhaps there will, in a discussion on sex in a more general sense be some kind of breakthrough that can be carried over to understanding the gay community better.

OD

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Originally Posted by chrisg967 What is eternity but timelessness?

Thank you for sharing that so beautifully and with simplicity!

That is so much what I believe too, Chris! Instead of thinking of eternity as one day after another, since days are measured by time, we must realize that eternity is a dimension to life at all, one we cannot truly grasp while making use of weights and measures of both time and space to live at all.

IMHO,

OD

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Originally Posted by JayD Well if a person ends up in hell, I bet there definition of eternity, is much different than someone who doesnt.

JayD, perhaps you could start a thread at the religion forum here concerning eternity, heaven and hell...

That would keep this thread more on topic, and yet provide another venue for this very pertinent subject to be discussed.

OD

Ah, space, the other frontier. A corollary to eternity/timelessness is:

What is infinity but spacelessness?

Have you read Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now? He talks about time and space... about how "he" couldn't live with "himself", which made him wonder, are there two of him, and if so, how did that happen? Excellent book - I've read it about three times.

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Just a couple observations I have, JayD...I would have to say that no one that I know of consistently holds to a literal translation, interpretion and application of the bible. So while you don't understand, it has to be the way anyone handles the Bible. All of us, JayD, all of us.

Then you said that there is less accountability for those who "don't know this" so in reality, given that the spirit is willing and yet the flesh is weak, you would do well to not inform folk of this that you know.

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One need go no further than the Bible to see who Jesus is. In his first coming he came as the lamb, to provide a way for sinners to be saved. The second coming he will be the lion. Anyone who says different will be unpleasantly surprized.

I do not agree, I believe that one must find Jesus in their heart. The Bible is good for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. But it is only the finding of Jesus in one's heart that achieves the metanoia that makes one able to both hear and do the Word of God.

And further, might as well just say it, the Bible clearly teaches the universal salvation of mankind, and to think that anyone will ever be unpleasantly surprised by an encounter with Jesus is contrary to the all sufficient salvation that He brought to us.

OD

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I was talking with my cousin about this a couple days ago. We both reached a conclusion that it is was just another example of God speaking about things as though they already happened. Through scripture he often talked that way. Heck, he condemed Judas for selling him for 30 pieces of silver, in the OLD TEST. And says it as though it already happened. Thats my take on it anyway.