Originally Posted by JayD

As for myself, pondering hell left me deeply disturbed. I to couldnt imagine this all loving, all caring, all mercifull God, casting billions of people in eternal flames. Consious no less. So I asked God to justify this to me through his word. I at random opened the bible, and the first scripture I read was " Were you there when I set the sun and the stars?" Basicaly I felt God was telling me he need not explain anything to me. At that time I decided I wanted nothing more to do with a God who could do that to people. Whats crazy is, its not that I no longer believed (I had already seen to much of him to doubt his existance), I just didnt care anymore. Thankfully through his grace and mercy, He brought me back to the flock, (fullfilling his promise, that he is the good sheperd, and will leave the other sheep on the hill, to go after the one thats lost)I still have trouble contemplating hell, and why he would do such a thing, but I realize now that his ways are higher than my ways. Theres nothing I can do about it either way. So now I just plan to endure till the end, as he has commanded us to do. Understanding will be in full, on the day of judgment. I pray everyday that im on the right side of the fence come that day.

Originally Posted by OhDear

JayD judges:


Heck, JayD, not a good way to start off a post...that hurt my feelings.


Let me supply you with a link that addresses hell and other issues that you might want to look at again and for the first time. Since you were only posting for 'the others' to read and not for me, I feel it best if I just give you a link rather than to personally write a reply.
Or for the "crowd" too...


TENTMAKER


OD

Originally Posted by Antithesis

So...you accept it because god told you not to think about it?
No, not really. its not that I accept it, but more I accept him, and understand he owes me nothing, and I owe him everything.
Doesn't something like that deserve explanation.
No. Does the clay deserve an explanation as to why it was made a pot? or a bowl?

If there's an afterlife, I'm confident people are just as able to repent and be forgiven as with this life.
Were does this confidence come from?

Originally Posted by Antithesis

No, not really. its not that I accept it, but more I accept him, and understand he owes me nothing, and I owe him everything.
According to the bible He gave us the world, life, laws, etc. The one thing he owes us is explanation. If anything it will strengthen people's faith
Well you ask him for one, cause I dont see him handing any out. Good luck with that.
No. Does the clay deserve an explanation as to why it was made a pot? or a bowl?
Nobody is eternally tormented by pottery, and so that's irrelevant. Something as incredibly important as eternity warrants explanation, not excuses.
Thats true, however your existance is a figment of his imagination. Trust, no matter how you feel about it, he owes you nothing.

Were does this confidence come from?
Human nature is human nature regardless of the form of humanity. We have the capacity to forgive, hold grudges, remain wicked, or reform ourselves, should we wish to do any of the such. The whole idea of purgatory is based on that principle, that people can enter heaven after a long time repenting in a place separated from it, even after death.

Im not catholic, I dont believe in purgatory. Nor is it biblical.

Originally Posted by Rod

Exclusively for Jay:
Through your pride you are obviously blinded to what I did actually say.
Take heed to your own words Jay and examine yourself before examining others you obviously do not know. Pull that plank out of your eye for you can see.
Put a few rocks in a box and keep them shaking and rolling against each other eventually they will polish each other.

Originally Posted by JayD

Maybe. What were you trying to say then?