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Originally Posted by JayD ,

JayD, You just told me that your hand is co-redemtrix in the salvation you claim.

OD

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Coredemtrix.

OD

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Originally Posted by FrednTexas I really hate to interrupt this discussion, but I read both links provided in the beginning, OD. Thank you for that, and the second one provides a view point I'd never heard, and found to be refreshing.

Fred, I am just gonna discard the Lillith Legend, only counting it some music fest for women, like Sarah MacLaughlan, Carole King, Enya...

Cos it doesn't fit for me. And you know what I like to say:
"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song. Maya Angelou"
I aint got the answer ...but I do have the song!
OD

Lilith, in context of the women's libbers, and the new age, must be discounted.

The ancient Hebrew, Sumerian, &etc. Lilith would be harder to discount. It is an interesting question, though, about Adam, and completeness. A man, or a woman, alone is certainly not a complete unit. It takes both together. This is Devine Design, whatever the foundation.

I believe that when God created man in His image, it was the Triumvirate God, Father, Son, and Spirit. Man, in order to actually fulfil the image of God, must be Husband, Wife, and the Spirit of love surrounding them. That is the reflection, or image, of God that was meant in Genesis. However it may have come about.

The thing is, this question is in a way, sort of like, "Was Jesus married?"
The answer to that question is, "It doesn't really matter."

However we came to be male and female, the fact is, we did. God designed us to compliment each other. A woman has strengths I can't fathom, but need. A man has strengths a woman can't reach, but needs. We both need the love and comfort of the other. We were designed that way. This is why homosexuality is called an "abomination," in the Bible.

Likewise, whatever Jesus may or may not have done in His personal life, it doesn't change the fact of the sacrifice He made for our salvation, in fact, if He was married, it enhanced the sacrifice He made, because if that was the case, then He didn't just give up His life, He gae up His earthly family for our salvation. What greater gift could be given? What greater sacrifice could have been made?

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Originally Posted by FrednTexas A man has strengths a woman can't reach, but needs. We both need the love and comfort of the other. We were designed that way. This is why homosexuality is called an "abomination," in the Bible.

Dear Fred,

I mean you no contrariness in attitude, but I fail to see the connection between the basic need you define, that of the love and comfort of male and female, and the conclusion that homosexuality is then counted an abomination.

If that need is to be met in sexual experience, then would it not be just as true that those who do not marry, those who remain celibate are also an abomination to the Lord?

Cannot that need that you see of man needing woman and woman needing man be met in other platonic and yet intimate relationships, corresponding hearts of motherhood, sisterhood, friendship or fatherhood, brotherhood, and yes again friendship?

OD

Why cannot a man or a woman be complete in and of themselves?
What is the "it" that needs both a man and a woman?

To be whole...the full completeness of being