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Originally Posted by Jefferson You didn't answer my questions.

Well Jefferson, firstly, I asked you first, but the point is, you can say someone is lying if you want, perhaps if you have some kind of strong convincement to say so...

But you have no right to say someone is endangering others with tainted blood unless you know that to be true.

Did someone tell you that they tested positive for hiv or some other hemo-com disease, and then donated blood?

OD

Speak for yourself. i want medical papers confirming that Tristan is HIV positive. Otherwise, you're being judgemental and hostile. And don't give me any bullshit about lying on medical forms, because the ends justify the means. That blood is probably being used in research or medicine, helping to cure people of whatever the are suffering from or, at the very least, contributing to research in order to find better ways to cure people. What right do you have to say that homosexuals...know what? You're obviously just going to ride this out with your presumptions, so I'm just gonna drive home the fact that you're a McCarthyist and a liar.

Does the American Red Cross refuse the blood of those who engage in homosexual sex? Yes, the simple answer is YES. No need to explain it away, and no need to rationalize it. WE ALL KNOW WHY THEY REFUSE THE BLOOD OF PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL SEX., AND WE ALL KNOW WHY.

Does the American Red Cross refuse to accept MY blood - due to the fact that I've been overseas within the last 2 years? Yes, the simple answer is YES. No need to explain it away, and no need to rationalize it. THEY REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY BLOOD BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER IT HIGH RISK.


Does the HIV/AIDS virus show up, immediately in blood? You KNOW the answer to that.
Do possible diseases that I might have contracted overseas show up immediately in blood? You KNOW the answer to that.


The ONLY way I could give blood is by LYING TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
The ONLY way a practicing homosexual could give blood is by LYING TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

I will NOT lie to the Red Cross, because though I claim no faith at all, I have ethics, morals, honesty and integrity. I will NOT lie and I will NOT put innocent people at undue risk.

Trista, on the other hand, is PROUD of the fact that he LIES to the American Red Cross. He BRAGS about it. He thinks it's some sort of supreme civil disobedience when, in truth, it is an act of cowardice, selfishness and sick perversion. Trista LIES and puts innocent people at undue risk.


Is my point clear enough for everybody here?

You're full of crap.

If you had to choose between receiving blood of people screened by the American Red Cross, and the blood drawn from a group of practicing homosexuals, you know DANGED WELL which "bank" you'd choose to receive your blood from.

Say differently, and you're lying.


I am not making up the rule, Junior. This is what the American Red Cross has as guidelines - and for good reason. Your beef is with them, not me. I'm not making up things here. I'm simply calling attention to the FACTS.

Get it?

Uhh Ohh... Mommy Spanky!

Lying, and making excuses for lying.

Pretty danged pathetic - especially coming from somebody who turns around and proudly calls himself a Christian.

Is this really the kind of behavior that any Christian wants to be associated with? I would hope not!

Dear Tristan,

It seems to me that the best means to overcome discrimination is to demonstrate honorable submission to current laws, and work on changing the laws, not rebelling against them.

There need to be spokepersons on behalf of the gay community, legal and medical experts that reverse the current policy.

Don't rebel Tristan, you hurt a cause that is dear to both our hearts.

OD

This is getting tiresome and repetitive. Let me repeat one more fact: blood is screened anyway, and there is a better way to go about this anyway. The chance of being infected with HIV from a blood transfusion in this day & age is about 1 in 1 million. The only risk of HIV ot being seen comes from a low concentration of the virus, within two weeks of infection from the donor. Thus, it is not necessary to bar gays. Just tell them, and everyone else, to abstain for two weeks.