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Old 01-12-2007, 10:36 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Actually, the gay community only represents 1%-2% of the population. They lie to exaggerate their numbers.


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Old 01-12-2007, 10:41 AM   #82 (permalink)
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And that represents 4% of the gay population. Yes. 4% is a lot...it's certainly a much much higher rate than the straight community. However, it still does not have ANYTHING to do with the 96% - NINETY SIX - that are healthy with clean blood.

Sorry, but thats just not possible. Someone is lying. If 48% of the people with Aids represents the Gay community, And the total number of gays represents 6% of the population, then the total number of Gay people with Aids is MUCH higher than 4%. Does the CDC have reason to lie about it?
Old 01-12-2007, 10:42 AM   #83 (permalink)
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And that represents 4% of the gay population. Yes. 4% is a lot...it's certainly a much much higher rate than the straight community. However, it still does not have ANYTHING to do with the 96% - NINETY SIX - that are healthy with clean blood.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:43 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Actually, the gay community only represents 1%-2% of the population. They lie to exaggerate their numbers.
"They lie to..."
You sound just as fricken paranoid as Alias.

But oh wait. You're not "prejudiced" against gays, are you...


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Skirting the issue again, I see!
...what a tangled web we weave...
No. That's nailing the issue head on to point out the absurdity of saying that NO gay person can donate because of a problem that faces only a MINORITY of gay people.

Why is it that the standards are only applied to gays???

Kind of reminds me of how being illiterate only kept blacks from voting, while whites were given a free pass. A tool of prejudice, with a lame excuse to ignore the truth...
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:46 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Sorry, but thats just not possible. Someone is lying. If 48% of the people with Aids represents the Gay community, And the total number of gays represents 6% of the population, then the total number of Gay people with Aids is MUCH higher than 4%. Does the CDC have reason to lie about it?
No. It's not lying.
It's about MATH.

Suppose we have 1000 people with HIV. 500 of which are gay.
And suppose the total gay population is 50,000 people.

Now do the math...

That would mean 50% of the people with HIV are gay.
But only 1% of the gay people have HIV.

THINK, and do the math for yourself.
The problem is that we're talking about two different numbers in the denominator, and you're blindly assuming that the numbers have to be similar because you're fixated on the numerator.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:47 AM   #86 (permalink)
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"They lie to..."
You sound just as fricken paranoid as Alias.

But oh wait. You're not "prejudiced" against gays, are you...



No. That's nailing the issue head on to point out the absurdity of saying that NO gay person can donate because of a problem that faces only a MINORITY of gay people.

Why is it that the standards are only applied to gays???

Kind of reminds me of how being illiterate only kept blacks from voting, while whites were given a free pass. A tool of prejudice, with a lame excuse to ignore the truth...


Brother, 48% Thats alittle more than a minority.This fact shouldnt be brushed aside, cause it doesnt fit your line of thinking.
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Do you wear a tin foil hat when you're out looking for black helicoptors?

YOU have PROVEN that you are a LIAR. In fact, you are clearly a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. You have proven that to everybody, and everybody knows it except your gay friend FoundIt.

I, however, am not paranoid.

I'm calling attention to the FACTS.


No tin-foil hat needed.
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"They lie to..."
You sound just as fricken paranoid as Alias.

But oh wait. You're not "prejudiced" against gays, are you...

No. That's nailing the issue head on to point out the absurdity of saying that NO gay person can donate because of a problem that faces only a MINORITY of gay people.

Why is it that the standards are only applied to gays???

Kind of reminds me of how being illiterate only kept blacks from voting, while whites were given a free pass. A tool of prejudice, with a lame excuse to ignore the truth...
Oh Boo-Frickin'-Hoo. Cry me a river, you baby!

I can't donate blood either, because I've been overseas.

THE RED CROSS IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ME!!!!!!! Boo-Stinking-Hoo.


Maybe if people like you and Trista were concerned with anything beyond the end of your penis, you'd consider the health risk you're posing to innocent people.

But you can't see that. All you see is some supposed discrimination.
Old 01-12-2007, 10:53 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Brother, 48% Thats alittle more than a minority.This fact shouldnt be brushed aside, cause it doesnt fit your line of thinking.[/size][/size]
1) Technically, 48% IS a minority.
2) Secondly, DO THE MATH.
48% of all HIV victims are gay?
That doesn't mean anything about how many GAYS have HIV.

Do you understand that those are two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT numbers?

3) Do you want to take another example?
We can take the percentage of violent criminals in jail who are black.
Does that mean the majority of blacks are violent criminals?

Or even HIV statistics and blacks. As Tristan pointed out, why not look at black females and HIV.
Does that mean that black females should be banned from donating blood?

These tools of mathematical misinterpretation and stereo-typing are frequently used against minority groups. But for some reason, people can't seem to figure out that it's still wrong when it's applied to a group they do not like...
"(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish."
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:54 AM   #90 (permalink)
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No. It's not lying.
It's about MATH.

Suppose we have 1000 people with HIV. 500 of which are gay.
And suppose the total gay population is 50,000 people.

Now do the math...

That would mean 50% of the people with HIV are gay.
But only 1% of the gay people have HIV.

THINK, and do the math for yourself.
The problem is that we're talking about two different numbers in the denominator, and you're blindly assuming that the numbers have to be similar because you're fixated on the numerator.

Heres the point, alot more gay people have aids (pound for pound) then striaght people. Therefore it is within the right of any blood donation org to refuse to accept blood from those individuals. To lie about your sexual prefrence to donate blood boarders on striaght evil intentions.
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