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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:48 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Have any thoughts of your own there chief?
Oh, plenty.

I just like to post quotes containing conclusions that I agree with yet couldn't muster a way to speak myself as clearly as the person whom I am quoting.

So then, what happens to your belief system-if anything-if life is found outside Earth, such as on Mars or on an outer planet moon?

(I think it is inevitable that life exists elsewhere.)
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Oh, plenty.

I just like to post quotes containing conclusions that I agree with yet couldn't muster a way to speak myself as clearly as the person whom I am quoting.

So then, what happens to your belief system-if anything-if life is found outside Earth, such as on Mars or on an outer planet moon?

(I think it is inevitable that life exists elsewhere.)
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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What belief system is it to which you refer? I also think that it is inevitable that life exists elsewhere....but that doesn't deny God, does it? That doesn't mean the entire universe wasn't "created."
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What belief system is it to which you refer? I also think that it is inevitable that life exists elsewhere....but that doesn't deny God, does it? That doesn't mean the entire universe wasn't "created."
It just means that the Bible forgot to mention the fact that God created other intelligent life in the universe.... yeah, tough sell there.
I'm sure if aliens land people will find some obscure passage to back it up in the Bible. Faith is a powerful intoxication.
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It just means that the Bible forgot to mention the fact that God created other intelligent life in the universe.... yeah, tough sell there.
I'm sure if aliens land people will find some obscure passage to back it up in the Bible. Faith is a powerful intoxication.
What are you even talking about here?

I mean, yes, you're evidencing your anti-christian bigotry, but what in the world are you talking about?
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I'm saying that even if an alien race landed in D.C. tomorrow a Christian could still find something in the Bible to explain when God had a chance to create said alien race.

That is how intoxicating the religious point of view is.
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I'm saying that even if an alien race landed in D.C. tomorrow a Christian could still find something in the Bible to explain when God had a chance to create said alien race.

That is how intoxicating the religious point of view is.
I gotta say, that is one of the stupidest posts you've ever put up. It made no sense at all - other than to further evidence your anti-christian bigotry.
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I'm sure if aliens land people will find some obscure passage to back it up in the Bible. Faith is a powerful intoxication.
absolutely.
people have found Biblical validation for everything from war to slavery to banning interracial marriages to beating their children.
people who look hard enough can find validation in the Bible for absolutely any action.
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I gotta say, that is one of the stupidest posts you've ever put up. It made no sense at all - other than to further evidence your anti-christian bigotry.
Actually, it's perfectly reflective of reality.
Over the millenia, followers of Christianity have declared that some issues like X, Y, and Z have GOT to be true, saying otherwise is blasphemy, and God made it this way.
And then when they were proven wrong, guess what happened. The religion didn't collapse.
They suddenly found something to reinterpret to say what was REALLY going on, and they moved on.

Part of the problem is hubris of some Christians who presume that their interpretation is definitive. And also hubris in thinking that all (or certain specific) portions of the Bible can or should be taken literally.

The pretense that they know the mind of God.
Hubris.
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