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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 02-20-2007, 08:35 PM   #91 (permalink)
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This all started by me telling Hev that I know God exists. That I dont even need faith anymore. Then for 3 pages everyone chimed in to how or why I am wrong. But not one of you have a clue as to why Im so sure. Lots of assumption that I just had a "feeling", and stuff like that. Now Im not going to get in to how or why I know, simply cause I dont want people on here belittling my experiance, and calling me a lier. Which you are sure to do. But I will leave you with this. You dont know anywhere near as much as you think you know.
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Oh. The irony...
HevUSA admits that he doesn't know whether or not god exists.
You, on the other hand, claim you "know" something that you have absolutely no objective evidence for substantiating your claim of "knowing".

Hev admits he doesn't know when he doesn't know.
YOU are the one claiming to "know".

Your comment is more accurately aimed at yourself...
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:39 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I'm sure the truth is your "proof" is rubbish.
Hev, That's not cool.

People spend too much time trying to force others into their reality.

If he feels that he has a God and a soul then that is his experience in this lifetime. If it provides comfort for living, why disabuse him the concept? Life is meant to be lived to the fullest regardless of individual ideal.

Debate, yes, but to seek proof where we all agree that none exists does not further the debate.

Just my thoughts.
Old 02-20-2007, 08:57 PM   #93 (permalink)
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People spend too much time trying to force others into their reality.

If he feels that he has a God and a soul then that is his experience in this lifetime. If it provides comfort for living, why disabuse him the concept? Life is meant to be lived to the fullest regardless of individual ideal.

This is not about forcing religion or reality on or off of anyone, or wanting him to change his faith. This is about truth and honesty. We are long overdue for people to understand the difference between belief and knowledge. As you can see from preacherman and most under the intoxication of religion they have a VERY difficult time with this.

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Debate, yes, but to seek proof where we all agree that none exists does not further the debate.

That is exactly the problem. We don't all agree that none exists (obviously).
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Old 02-20-2007, 09:02 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:41 AM   #95 (permalink)
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I'm sure the truth is your "proof" is rubbish.
And your last sentence is so ironic it almost hurts.


Well its good to know your open to discussion
Old 02-21-2007, 05:45 AM   #96 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by foundit66
Oh. The irony...
HevUSA admits that he doesn't know whether or not god exists.
You, on the other hand, claim you "know" something that you have absolutely no objective evidence for substantiating your claim of "knowing".
No I do, I just dont want to share it with the likes of people who would call me a lier before I even told my story. Including you. Hence this very thread.
Hev admits he doesn't know when he doesn't know.So, Im sure he doesnt know.
YOU are the one claiming to "know".That is correct.

Your comment is more accurately aimed at yourself...My aim is just fine.
Old 02-21-2007, 06:01 AM   #97 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by foundit66
Oh. The irony...
HevUSA admits that he doesn't know whether or not god exists.
You, on the other hand, claim you "know" something that you have absolutely no objective evidence for substantiating your claim of "knowing".
No I do, I just dont want to share it with the likes of people who would call me a lier before I even told my story. Including you. Hence this very thread.
Hev admits he doesn't know when he doesn't know.So, Im sure he doesnt know.
YOU are the one claiming to "know".That is correct.

Your comment is more accurately aimed at yourself...My aim is just fine.

I could tell you several stories too and one of them is about actually being dead. True story BTW
Old 02-21-2007, 06:51 AM   #98 (permalink)
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Well its good to know your open to discussion
This whole post reminds me of a old saying, "Not everyone has to believe in God, and God doesn't have to believe in them".
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THAT DEFENDS HER..

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Old 02-21-2007, 07:14 AM   #99 (permalink)
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This wohle post reminds me of a old saying, "Not everyone has to believe in God, and God doesn't have to believe in them".
I have never heard that. And I thought God loved everyone and wanted them all to believe in Him.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:43 AM   #100 (permalink)
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I have never heard that. And I thought God loved everyone and wanted them all to believe in Him.
That why it's an old saying.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL THAT DEFENDS HER..
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