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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, a Pharisee was a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity. It has come to mean a self-righteous person; a hypocrite.

Sound like anybody who posts here?! hmmm?
Doesn't the word hypocrite basically mean "play actor"?

I think we might be onto something! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Interesting how & why Trista is SO upset by this thread.


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Old 01-26-2007, 03:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, seeing as jesus is also MY prophet i figured i would add my two cents worth

it is evident from everything in jesus' life that he had no place for venegance or hatred in his heart. I believe that any violent, hateful, destructive or bigoted opinion to have emanated from the church over the past 2000 years is the direct result of human exploitation of people's faith in jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus would have condoned the crusades as an ideological war. He would not have condoned the inquisition. He would not have condoned the catholic/protestant persecutions in various christian nations. He would not have condoned the absolute supremacy of the church (at least not at the expense of love and forgiveness ).

As any other man of god he lived and died with love and forgiveness.

Anybody who justifies violence and aggression in the name of a man of god is just WRONG, and i marvel at the level of self-denial these people must have to still think they are righteous.

Which is incidentally what the radical muslims of today are doing with the name of Mohammad. I realize that most of you consider him a violent warlord.. but is it possible that non-christians of the middle ages may have thought the same about Jesus? After all his followers invoked HIS name to justify their violence.

And in case anybody wishes to start "mohammad bashing" again.. well give it a rest for now.. i happen to be AGREEING with the devout christians here.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, seeing as jesus is also MY prophet i figured i would add my two cents worth

it is evident from everything in jesus' life that he had no place for venegance or hatred in his heart. I believe that any violent, hateful, destructive or bigoted opinion to have emanated from the church over the past 2000 years is the direct result of human exploitation of people's faith in jesus.

I do not believe that Jesus would have condoned the crusades as an ideological war. He would not have condoned the inquisition. He would not have condoned the catholic/protestant persecutions in various christian nations. He would not have condoned the absolute supremacy of the church (at least not at the expense of love and forgiveness ).

As any other man of god he lived and died with love and forgiveness.

Anybody who justifies violence and aggression in the name of a man of god is just WRONG, and i marvel at the level of self-denial these people must have to still think they are righteous.

Which is incidentally what the radical muslims of today are doing with the name of Mohammad. I realize that most of you consider him a violent warlord.. but is it possible that non-christians of the middle ages may have thought the same about Jesus? After all his followers invoked HIS name to justify their violence.

And in case anybody wishes to start "mohammad bashing" again.. well give it a rest for now.. i happen to be AGREEING with the devout christians here.
Ummmmm... First of all, Muhammad WAS a violent murderer. He DID have 11 wives - one of them (his favorite, Aisha) being a 9-year old girl. It's historic fact.

Also, I really don't know that anybody who has ever read the Gospels - or even the apocryphal Gospels - would see Jesus as a violent, vengeful man.

Clearly the Crusades were wrong and stupid. But even pro-Crusade people would admit that they were not about following the teachings of Jesus. In addition, you have to be honest about what led directly to the Crusades - and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
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Ummmmm... First of all, Muhammad WAS a violent murderer. He DID have 11 wives - one of them (his favorite, Aisha) being a 9-year old girl. It's historic fact.

Also, I really don't know that anybody who has ever read the Gospels - or even the apocryphal Gospels - would see Jesus as a violent, vengeful man.

Clearly the Crusades were wrong and stupid. But even pro-Crusade people would admit that they were not about following the teachings of Jesus. In addition, you have to be honest about what led directly to the Crusades - and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
Fine Jeff, you win.
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Yes the truth has a way of doing that to wicked ones Jefferson. Please excuse me now as I have a bruised heel I need to attend too.
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Now there are those who would stand in this forum to accuse those who believe fully in the Words of God. Claiming hatred when we stand on the word of truth.

The path to being spiritually enlightened will never come from a lie about God or a man made text. No one can objectively know a damn thing about God. That is why faith is required in religion and not something with more substance that you could objectively confirm.

The world is in DIRE NEED of spiritual honesty. I hope everyone can stop lying about God one day.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The path to being spiritually enlightened will never come from a lie about God or a man made text. No one can objectively know a damn thing about God. That is why faith is required in religion and not something with more substance that you could objectively confirm.

The world is in DIRE NEED of spiritual honesty. I hope everyone can stop lying about God one day.
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...including you.
...and everyone. Contrary to popular belief, you do not have your own personal Jesus.
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...and everyone. Contrary to popular belief, you do not have your own personal Jesus.
Who said I did?

Also, what in heck are you even talking about?
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