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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 02-17-2007, 07:27 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I think this is a faulty argument and is ignorant to the concept of atheism. It's my contention that agnosticism, logically, should lead to solipsism and extreme metaphysical uncertainty. Allow me to explain:

The theory that is presented is the existence of a God or Gods, and it is treated scientifically like any theory. That is, atheists see that there is no factual or reasonable evidence to believe in this theory. Therefore it is rejected.

It's equivalent to people telling me that there is an invisible flying unicorn in my garage. They have no evidence to suggest that there really is one in my garage. But likewise, it's utterly impossible for me to prove that there isn't. However, in science, I must deny the proposal, that is I must assume that there isn't a unicorn until someone proves otherwise or presents evidence that would lead us to believe that there is more of a chance of the existence of an invisible flying unicorn.

Taking your argument could logically mean that we can't prove anything, and therefore we shouldn't accept anything. Just because there might be a slight chance of all of existence is a dream (solipsism) and you can't prove otherwise, and therefore all science false, doesn't mean we shouldn't accept science or reality. Nothing is certain and nothing is proved absolutely, but that doesn't mean we should accept nothing as true.

This is why we have a concept called occam's razor.

When theories are presented, it's the theorist's job to prove his/her theory, NOT everyone else's job to disprove the theory.

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Old 02-17-2007, 07:28 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Well is the soul enough to prove that there is a god,and yes i have one...

Just because you think you have a soul doesn't mean it exists...
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:28 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Just because you think you have a soul doesn't mean it exists...
Not only that...but I don't see how it would be proof of a God anyway...

I mean, Buddhism is a spiritual religion with reincarnation and everything...but a god is not required.
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Just because you think you have a soul doesn't mean it exists...
True...

But just because there is no proof of Woman's intuition does not mean that it does not exist.

The reality is that there are many things that we do not yet understand.

This leaves a healthy bit of subjectivity.

We look at a car painted aqua... I see green and you see blue. Neither is right and neither is wrong. It's all POV.
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True...

But just because there is no proof of Woman's intuition does not mean that it does not exist.

The reality is that there are many things that we do not yet understand.

This leaves a healthy bit of subjectivity.

We look at a car painted aqua... I see green and you see blue. Neither is right and neither is wrong. It's all POV.

I think we should both see aqua, unless one of us is color blind.
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:15 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Just because you think you have a soul doesn't mean it exists...
Dude I know 100% that I have a soul.
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Dude I know 100% that I have a soul.
How do you know? What evidence makes you conclusively determine that you have a soul?
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How do you know? What evidence makes you conclusively determine that you have a soul?
Because I know..and no amount of proof will change your mind anyways, so why ask...
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do you realize with every post that you make, you prove katczinksy's statement for him?
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do you realize with every post that you make, you prove katczinksy's statement for him?
wow , did i insult you boy/girl friend...get those brownie points while you can..
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