Tristan,

I had a look at the website and I'm not convinced it is a hate group at all. Perhaps you should have a look too. I am interested in your opinion (after you viewed the website).

Dear, how do you get the youtube video to post like that? I've only been able to post a link - without the video appearing on the screen like that.

Very easy. Look at the top of the area where you type in your response. See the red 'You Tube' icon?

Click it and put your You Tube URL inbetween the html coding.

It's the same with Google video links, except you click the 'G', which is for linking to Google videos.

I checked the link out myself. I have to agree with Ty and PN as well. Nothing racial about the link site or the myspace journal attached to it. From what I can see, they're trying to teach that any form of discrimination based off of race/skin color is wrong.

Not to mention, they seem a tad put out themselves about the actual racist sites that try to link up to them, as the owner seems to hate any and all racists.

Accurate. Just slight control..

I can block certain sites the Google ads display, but that's about it.

Thanks, I never noticed those icons

don't feel bad, i had the same problem too.

This may explain the process by which the ads are selected.

It does not necessarily justify their appearance here.
"Hate group"? I'm not sure.
"Discrimination based off of race/skin color"? Then why use the the word "Caucasian" in their name? It is fundamentally discriminatory.
ty,
I appreciate your thinking of Caucasian ..., & NAACP as being on equal footing.
But let's not overlook the painfully obvious here.

Blacks & Whites should be on equal legal & social footing with all other citizens in the U.S., regardless of the ratio of their numbers, to the whole People.

But as a historical fact, & practical matter, it is not Whites that have needed to gain equality in a society that has discriminated against them. It's Blacks that have needed an NAACP.

I realize there is a case than can be made, that might seem to justify this.
I believe it is a weak case. And while I'm not insisting they are exactly alike, I think it's worth noting that some of the KKK rhetoric, and in fact some of the Nazi rhetoric might have seemed quite reasonable.

In my opinion, the problem is, the appearance of this ad, and perhaps other offensive or questionable ads here, might seem to be an editorial endorsement by this BBS site's cadre, of the organizations & or products & services advertised.

In a very real sense, this site partners with whatever organization advertises here. It at least presents the appearance, the impression of an endorsement.

Would the ad provider (Google?) object to an accompanying DTT disclaimer?

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Avoiding impropriety is important.
But sometimes avoiding the appearance of impropriety can be more important.

Addressing the particular ad itself, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I would argue that if we are talking about equal rights then if one group of people can have a group like this than so can the other. Its not at all a matter of White Vs. Black, its a matter of equal rights. equal rights for all our citizens. Your argument, and most like them, are part of the reason for the continued division of ethnic groups in the US. The resentment generated by even the NAACP is helping to keep predudice alive. Most whites, other than the prejudice ones, want to put all the reminders of past mistakes behind us all. Most blacks, other than the prejudice ones, also want to put the past mistakes behind. Any of these groups constantly remind everyone of the problem, there by keeping the problem alive and causing more hate. I personally think none of these groups are good for the situation. Proveable prejudice(even in its lowest forms) should be made an actual criminal offense and people should be punished. Every group formed for the advancement of any race should be disbanded and we should all learn to treat each other as equals, simply because we all know it the right thing.
In the end it comes down to eqaul rights for all. If these orginizations are allowed to exist than any ethnic groups should be allowed to form one. Anything else is just plain prejudice, and just keeping the resentment(and there by the prejudice), from both sides, alive.

I think you have a good point on the Ads disclaimer and will mention it to the other Mods.

What Ty is saying is head's on about the issue of discrimination. I happen to live in a mixed racial/ethinic community. I'm also a caucasian female. As are my family members who live near or around me.

I happen to get along with the majority of my neighbors. They're a mixture of black, asian, mexican, and a few other caucasians. On the whole, I enjoy the friendship and company of my neighbors. Despite this though, there are a small majority of my neighbors I do not get along with, as do the other caucasian neighbors of mine.

The problem simply being, those few have an issue with my skin color. Because of an accident of birth, of my being born a caucasian, these few individuals feel they have the right to verbally abuse and assualt me based on my race alone. They harrasse, intimidate, and if given the oppertunity, have no problem with beating down any individual that happens to be white.

While I don't advocate predjudice or practice it myself, because I feel all people are equal and deserving of respect and dignity, these few don't feel the same in regards towards myself or other whites.

If one of my ethnic minority neighbors ask them to stop playing music loud, having loud late night parties, etc? They are treated with respect and agreance by these few.

If I or another caucasian approaches them in the same manner asking for the same results, we are quickly told to get our 'white a$$es' back to our yards. We're called white trash, white b*tches, etc by these individuals. As if that's not insult enough, then these same individuals tell us if we don't 'like how us black folks do it', then we need to move our f-ing white a$$es somewhere else?

Calling law enforcement doesn't help either. As soon as law enforcement is called, the first thing they tell the officer is that we were using racial slurs against them and we're the racists. Even with our fellow neighbors who happen to be black as well telling law enforcement we didn't do such things, it's us who are threatened to be arrested for racism.

To add insult to injury, when we prove that the racist remarks have only come from those few accusing us wrongly of it? Law enforcement quickly tells us that there are no laws protecting us, the white victims, from this type of racial abuse. That racism is only defined by belonging to a racial minority group, of which caucasians aren't consider being such.

And the racial abuse doesn't stop there. Because besides being victims of racial abuse by a minority group individual, we are also obsticised by members within our own caucasian race for not sharing racial predjudice against minorities. So we get threatend by both sides of the issue because we don't accept either racist view.

Personally, I'm happy that someone was willing to stand up and make a stand for people that don't want racism to be practiced against anyone towards any racial catogory. In the end, we're all mutts of mixed heritage and ethnic backgrounds. And no one race is better or more deserving of respect over any other race or ethinic group. And I for one, am sick and tired of having to pay the price for the accident of my skin color. Being made to pay emotionally and mentally for the mistake of some misguided racist who happens to be of the same ethnic group as myself.

I just want to live and let live. There's so much people can learn and share about one another. And once you get past the skin color or religious beliefs, we're all the same underneath and hoping for the same good things in life.