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Old 03-03-2007, 04:26 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Tristan...I'm going to have to disagree with you here hon...Ridin's right. To be fair, he has to issue the warning to everyone, regardless of how big or small their participation in it was.

As KOS just posted, it takes two to tango...And Ridin would be doing a great disservice to all the members here is he just zoned in on one person when everyone has a part in this farce.
Thank you for understanding.


I honestly feel that the Gay Marriage forum might be the forum that is causing the problems here. I know owners from other political web sites and the took down their Gay Marriage forum because it was resulting in too much hatred.

I know I may be going off-topic here, but honestly, gays do not bother me at all. Sure I do not support gay-marriage, but I do support civil unions and I do have friends who are gay. Now I am bringing this up because I feel that there are some people who are 100% anti-gay and that is causing a stir in the debate with those who are either gay or want the same rights as heterosexuals have.

When I had the Gay Marriage forum down for a couple of weeks, some of you were upset to not voice your opinion, but I have noticed that the debates were much "cleaner" and the word gay was hardly used. Now that it's back up...look what happens.

Now I'm still thinking about what to do here...I could:
-Take down the Gay Marriage forum
-Temporarily take down the Gay Marriage forum every other week (may work)

I value everyones opinions here, unless they are spam or "chat threads" The one thing that really hurts me is to hear that members are upset with other members, hurting the overall debate and quality of the web site. It really does.

What I would want is for everyone to have a nice civil debate, try to keep the topics on-topic, and if you really can't stand someone, do not insult them, but rather place them on your ignore list. Maybe some of you can join my other forum Expertise Forums - Share Your Knowledge with the World and try to get to know eachother differently than by just discussion politics. Maybe it will be easier to make friends. Again, It makes me upset to read a long list of reported posts daily, give out infractions and/or bans, or to see members go because they do not feel comfortable here anymore... I created this web site because I want everyone to have a fun/free time to debate political topics and current events as it interests me greatly. Recently though, it has been very upsetting.

If somehow we can all work on a solution, you will all be doing me a favor. Let's all please try to get along.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:34 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I find it interesting that all these newbies here are spouting off grandiose platitudes about "saving this forum".

Shoot, almost all the newbies here that are spouting off are just internet trolls who followed their gay friend Trista here. Personally, I think YOUR presence here is very unwelcome!
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I'm not kidding. Not at all.

Alicornsprayer? KOS? Caffienebuzz? Every single one is an internet forum troll that came over here to post-hump this forum.

But defend them all you want.
why are you being such a jerk? okay, i lost my patience once with you on a thread (and i APOLOGIZED). we've been able to talk civilly on some threads, we've even joked, and now you call me a TROLL? okay, we're never gonna be best pals, but this is completely uncalled for.
Old 03-03-2007, 04:39 PM   #84 (permalink)
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why are you being such a jerk? okay, i lost my patience once with you on a thread (and i APOLOGIZED). we've been able to talk civilly on some threads, we've even joked, and now you call me a TROLL? okay, we're never gonna be best pals, but this is completely uncalled for.
I assume you are upset at something Jefferson, as this is not really like you. I'm sure he didn't really mean it.
Old 03-03-2007, 04:40 PM   #85 (permalink)
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You're wrong. But that's not uncommon.


Like I said, EVERY one of the people I mentioned - and more - are internet trolls that just go from one forum to another to another to another. Most get banned wherever they go.
I've seen trolls. They're not trolls. People lie Adam&Steve, Pineapple, and Garysher are. You only think that the people you're accusing are trolls because you disagree with their politics and they're relatively new. If you want to make accusations, don't take it lightly.

I find it difficult to believe you haven't heard of Garysher, too. He's pretty prolific.
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I assume you are upset at something Jefferson, as this is not really like you. I'm sure he didn't really mean it.
okay, i came in and read the posts in order and the thread devolved enough. sorry i said anything. it's just disheartening to come here "in peace" (as it were) and trying to be nice to everybody just to be regarded as a "troll." I'm not going to throw myself off a bridge or anything... it just kinda sucks.
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okay, i came in and read the posts in order and the thread devolved enough. sorry i said anything. it's just disheartening to come here "in peace" (as it were) and trying to be nice to everybody just to be regarded as a "troll." I'm not going to throw myself off a bridge or anything... it just kinda sucks.
I'll second those sentiments myself...
Old 03-03-2007, 04:50 PM   #88 (permalink)
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why isn't this thread closed down, huh? I get threads closed down faster than this for much simpiler things.
Old 03-03-2007, 04:51 PM   #89 (permalink)
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okay, i came in and read the posts in order and the thread devolved enough. sorry i said anything. it's just disheartening to come here "in peace" (as it were) and trying to be nice to everybody just to be regarded as a "troll." I'm not going to throw myself off a bridge or anything... it just kinda sucks.
I have a feeling that some members are just really aggravated and they are saying things that they really do not mean.

I'm sure that this is just a smal phase and it will go away. Politics just got too heated between some of the members and it resulted in a big fighting match. I am trying my best to fix this problem..

I hope everyone will read my post here, and will comply to it:
http://www.defendingthetruth.com/sug...html#post81735 (Can we please get a grip?)
Old 03-03-2007, 05:29 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Ridin, I believe you know damn well who baits people into arguments.

I don't think it's quite fair to reprimand those who have been baited into arguing, rather than the person/people who goad them into it.

Just my take on it.

Hilarious how Tristan never ever takes responsibility, and always wants to pass blame to others, so he can play victim!

Has it ever occurred to Tristan that his extremist views are what "bait" others into an argument?

He is goading and baiting as much as anyone!

But isn't that inevitable in a debate forum when people are passionate about their views?
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