Defending the Truth
Articles | Interviews | Politicians | Groups | Arcade | Experience | Donate
  Defending the Truth > Other Topics of Discussion > World History

World History Debate and discuss the history in politics to better understand the current geopolitical structure.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-14-2006, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
tyreay's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: RI
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,846
Country:
Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Level up: 63%, 185 Points needed
Level up: 63% Level up: 63% Level up: 63%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via Yahoo to tyreay
tyreay is offline
Reply With Quote
James Madison Quote
Here is a quote from James Madison. "In war the discretionary power of the president is extended. It's influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes and the opportunities of fraud growing out of the state of war and in the degeneracy of manors and morals engendered by both. No nation can preserve it's freedom in the midst of continual warfare"

What does this historic view have to do with our current Administration?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville
Sponsored Links
Old 02-14-2006, 08:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
tyreay's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: RI
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,846
Country:
Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Level up: 63%, 185 Points needed
Level up: 63% Level up: 63% Level up: 63%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via Yahoo to tyreay
tyreay is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Oh No. What would James say about this?
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...news-a_section
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville
Old 02-14-2006, 08:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
Community Leader
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 693
Points: 4,611, Level: 43
Points: 4,611, Level: 43 Points: 4,611, Level: 43 Points: 4,611, Level: 43
Level up: 31%, 139 Points needed
Level up: 31% Level up: 31% Level up: 31%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
indago is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Recall that in George Orwell's book 1984, Oceania was at continual war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Bush has declared war not only on Iraq, but on "terrorism", a never-ending war.

Boondoggle
Old 02-24-2006, 10:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
Congressional Representative
 
intangible child's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California Dreamin
Posts: 3,367
Points: 21,357, Level: 92
Points: 21,357, Level: 92 Points: 21,357, Level: 92 Points: 21,357, Level: 92
Level up: 1%, 993 Points needed
Level up: 1% Level up: 1% Level up: 1%
Activity: 57%
Activity: 57% Activity: 57% Activity: 57%
intangible child is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by indago
Recall that in George Orwell's book 1984, Oceania was at continual war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Bush has declared war not only on Iraq, but on "terrorism", a never-ending war.

Boondoggle
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

It is impossible to engage in intellectual discourse with Republican Party, for if there were such an entity, one would have to try by means of analysis and discussion either to prove its validity or to combat it. In actuality, however, we face a totally different situation. At it's very inception this movement depended on the deception and betrayal of one's fellow man; even at that time it was inwardly corrupt and could support itself only by constant lies."It is unbelievable, to what extent one must betray a people in order to rule it." If at the start this cancerous growth in the nation was not particularly noticeable, it was only because there were still enough forces at work that operated for the good, so that it was kept under control. As it grew larger, however, and finally in an ultimate spurt of growth attained ruling power, the tumor broke open, as it were, and infected the whole body. The greater part of its former opponents went into hiding. The American intellectuals fled to their cellars, there, like plants struggling in the dark, away from light and sun, gradually to choke to death. Now the end is at hand. Now it is our task to find one another again, to spread information from person to person, to keep a steady purpose, and to allow ourselves no rest until the last man is persuaded of the urgent need of his struggle against this system. When thus a wave of unrest goes through the land, when "it is in the air," when many join the cause, then in a great final effort this system can be shaken off. After all, an end in terror is preferable to terror without end.
Old 02-24-2006, 02:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
Community Leader
 
onlyoneplanet's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tucson, Az
Posts: 505
Points: 3,667, Level: 38
Points: 3,667, Level: 38 Points: 3,667, Level: 38 Points: 3,667, Level: 38
Level up: 12%, 133 Points needed
Level up: 12% Level up: 12% Level up: 12%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via AIM to onlyoneplanet
onlyoneplanet is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by intangible child
Quote:
Originally Posted by indago
Recall that in George Orwell's book 1984, Oceania was at continual war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Bush has declared war not only on Iraq, but on "terrorism", a never-ending war.

Boondoggle
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

It is impossible to engage in intellectual discourse with Republican Party, for if there were such an entity, one would have to try by means of analysis and discussion either to prove its validity or to combat it. In actuality, however, we face a totally different situation. At it's very inception this movement depended on the deception and betrayal of one's fellow man; even at that time it was inwardly corrupt and could support itself only by constant lies."It is unbelievable, to what extent one must betray a people in order to rule it." If at the start this cancerous growth in the nation was not particularly noticeable, it was only because there were still enough forces at work that operated for the good, so that it was kept under control. As it grew larger, however, and finally in an ultimate spurt of growth attained ruling power, the tumor broke open, as it were, and infected the whole body. The greater part of its former opponents went into hiding. The American intellectuals fled to their cellars, there, like plants struggling in the dark, away from light and sun, gradually to choke to death. Now the end is at hand. Now it is our task to find one another again, to spread information from person to person, to keep a steady purpose, and to allow ourselves no rest until the last man is persuaded of the urgent need of his struggle against this system. When thus a wave of unrest goes through the land, when "it is in the air," when many join the cause, then in a great final effort this system can be shaken off. After all, an end in terror is preferable to terror without end.
The Project for a New American Century is just scary.
\"Are we justified in using articles, no matter how convenient it may be for us to use them, that we know were produced in conditions which bored and even stultified the human beings who had to make them?\"
-John Seymour
Old 02-24-2006, 02:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
hevusa's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.)
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,854
Country:
Points: 28,263, Level: 98
Points: 28,263, Level: 98 Points: 28,263, Level: 98 Points: 28,263, Level: 98
Level up: 92%, 87 Points needed
Level up: 92% Level up: 92% Level up: 92%
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
hevusa is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet
The Project for a New American Century is just scary.

you said it. creepy.
--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope ---

There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
Old 02-24-2006, 05:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
Super Moderator
Moderator
 
tyreay's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: RI
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,846
Country:
Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79 Points: 15,165, Level: 79
Level up: 63%, 185 Points needed
Level up: 63% Level up: 63% Level up: 63%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via Yahoo to tyreay
tyreay is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Don't mention the new american century too loud or we'll be asked to move it to conspiracy theories!!!!!
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour

There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle. ~Alexis de Tocqueville
Old 02-24-2006, 07:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
Community Leader
 
onlyoneplanet's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tucson, Az
Posts: 505
Points: 3,667, Level: 38
Points: 3,667, Level: 38 Points: 3,667, Level: 38 Points: 3,667, Level: 38
Level up: 12%, 133 Points needed
Level up: 12% Level up: 12% Level up: 12%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Send a message via AIM to onlyoneplanet
onlyoneplanet is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyreay
Don't mention the new american century too loud or we'll be asked to move it to conspiracy theories!!!!!
Hahaha!
\"Are we justified in using articles, no matter how convenient it may be for us to use them, that we know were produced in conditions which bored and even stultified the human beings who had to make them?\"
-John Seymour
Old 03-28-2006, 06:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
Congressional Representative
 
intangible child's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California Dreamin
Posts: 3,367
Points: 21,357, Level: 92
Points: 21,357, Level: 92 Points: 21,357, Level: 92 Points: 21,357, Level: 92
Level up: 1%, 993 Points needed
Level up: 1% Level up: 1% Level up: 1%
Activity: 57%
Activity: 57% Activity: 57% Activity: 57%
intangible child is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by indago
Recall that in George Orwell's book 1984, Oceania was at continual war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Bush has declared war not only on Iraq, but on "terrorism", a never-ending war.

Boondoggle

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of our great nation.---George W. Bush

And I give you the "unpatriotic acts"GWB

"Dictatorships start wars because they need external enemies to exert internal control over their own people." ~ Richard Perle

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it."---George W. Bush
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:06 AM.


 Top Political Sites
Poltical Topsites