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Old 04-02-2006, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kill Americans or Cubans to start war with Cuba!
Pages 7-11 on documents are pretty heavy, pages do not correspond to acrobat reader!
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Old 04-02-2006, 07:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've been aware of this document for many years now, and I knew about it when I was perhaps too young to comprehend its implications on today's society. In my ignorance, I actually used the document for an idea for a Role Playing scenerio on an online role playing game. It wasn't until I heard of the major loopholes in the official 9/11 conspiracy theory issued by the government did I make the connection that such documents are possible in our present day, and perhaps even more possible then back then.

Afterall, Bush and the upper ring-leaders of the neo-conservative administration were more egar to invade the Middle East than Kennedy was to invade Cuba. This on top of the fact that some of the top echoleon leaders in the administration were willing and infact wrote about the need for a "second pearl harbor" to serve as a cataylist to unite the American peoples into a flag-waving chauvanistic dogma and to allow subsequent wars and increases in military spending.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this has been written by the very people that run our government; including Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney among others. This is the type of philosophy, the type of mentality, that we are dealing with here.

Following these facts, Operation Northwoods, and giant holes in the official 9/11 story, its not easy to just leave out the possibility of some form of U.S. Government involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

At the same time, however, we must also of coarse not be ignorant of other theories such as the possibilty of total Al-Qaeda involvement, no matter how unlikely that is. But then again there's a possibilty that dragons are real..
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, it isn't a conspiracy theory.

I saw exerpts of that document in a History Channel documentary last week. The series is called "Declassified" and they had an episode about Castro.
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This thread probabally should be moved to the History board.
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Ah, I would like to point out that the government orchestrating 9/11 is ENTIRELY a conspiracy theory.

Obviously, the whole thing with Cuba never happened.
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Ah, I would like to point out that the government orchestrating 9/11 is ENTIRELY a conspiracy theory.

Obviously, the whole thing with Cuba never happened.
Thus Kennedy's death! Now it belongs in this thread! Kennedy wouldn't go with it!

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Old 04-03-2006, 07:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/intro.htm

This explains everything, basically. One shot, from the window.
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Ah, I would like to point out that the government orchestrating 9/11 is ENTIRELY a conspiracy theory.
That's quite a claim. I wish you could back it up with evidence (besides "the 9/11 [c]Ommission Report says so"). A conspiracy theory is coming up with an explaination for something with little to no evidence (hence "theory"). But a conspiracy probability is a hypothesis with factual evidence backing it up.

And right about now, the theory sent out by the 9/11 Commission Report is looking way more like a conspiracy theory than that of the probability of U.S. involvement, or at least foreknowledge. You can't deny the evidence for the ladder(clicky clicky), and the complete lack of evidence for the former. Its just people think there is evidence because the government told them so; which would be "released in due time" (hasn't been released yet).

I'm not denying the possibility of either one, and neither should you. The jury is still out on 9/11. The mainstream analysis of the events on September 11 was despicable.

Just because you don't want to believe in a fact, or peice of evidence, doesn't make it any less true.

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Obviously, the whole thing with Cuba never happened.
Just because it never happened doesn't dismiss the plan's existence, the government's willingness to do something like that, and high probability of something like this existing today.
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Old 04-03-2006, 11:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow, if you're a Bush they have to blame everything on you. Bush helped assasinate JFK, riiiight. Next they will accuse the Bushs of Assasinating Honest Abe.

Conspiracy theorist are always good for a laugh.
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Wow, if you're a Bush they have to blame everything on you. Bush helped assasinate JFK, riiiight. Next they will accuse the Bushs of Assasinating Honest Abe.

Conspiracy theorist are always good for a laugh.
Did the bush family assasinate Honest Abe? I haven't been able to trace back that far yet !
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