Your response is as predictable as ever.
You can't counter what was said, so you start misrepresenting what was actually said...

I'm not saying I'm more knowledgeable about war because I served in the military.

YOU made a stupid statement about liberals not serving in the military.
I pointed out that I HAVE served, and you have not.

And then you can't cope with getting shown up, so you try to misrepresent the situation.

Another lame trick on your part...


Seriously dude.
Whatever helps you sleep at night...
You're almost the only conservative on this web-site who is so ridiculously partisan that you can't even see straight.

Just out of curiousity, what other "conservatives" on here see me as the idiot and not you?
I've got only one possible candidate.
What's your count?


"for the hell of it"?
I keep pointing out the facts to you but you don't want to hear them.
The vast majority of wire-tapping efforts have been reported by the FBI THEMSELVES as being against innocent civilians.
If our government has just cause for picking up these people, then WHY are they fighting so hard against being asked to simply SHOW THE REASON WHY they are picking up these people?

That's all we're asking for...
But you can't muster the honesty to address that...

Of course they're innocent after they find out they're okay. They don't need a reason other than we are at war and they are listening. Good enough for me. You guys are just plain pitiful. You really think every American is as fucking stupid as you are. I'm glad you're no longer in the military. Our country is better for you not being there. Thank you for getting out.

It's innocent until proven guilty.
And if you're even thinking about claiming that it doesn't apply to "them", you're going to have to find a source to prove it first.
You saying so just don't cut it.


Of course it is.
Simple excuses satisfy simple minds.
And you don't give a rat's ass about anybody but yourself, so you give in to your fear and leave it at that.


And AGAIN we see how ridiculously partisan you are. You want me out of the military because of my POLITICAL views.
And who is the "divisive" one again??
You are downright pathetic.
So blinded by your partisan emotion that you don't even think about the actual good in the situation.

You're going to have to prove innocent American citizens are being spied upon. What are their names? Likewise, just saying so doesn't cut it. You are making the charges, where is the evidence?

Yes, I want you out of the military. I want a military who knows who the enemy is, not confused about sex, and is ready to fight for America. You fail every qualification.

It has been REPEATEDLY PRESENTED TO YOU.
The FBI ITSELF is saying that they are spying on innocent Americans.

You want names?
Ask the government TO RELEASE the names of the people THEY ADMIT exist.


1) While in the military, I would fight against whatever enemy I was ordered to fight against. Whether or not I thought we should be fighting is irrelevant to my committment to the orders.
As an American citizen, I have the right to disagree. I had that right even as a military member.
Of course to somebody as prejudiced as you who loves to stereo-type things, you can't comprehend that.

2) "not confused about sex"???
Again, you're a bigot against gays.

3) "ready to fight for America"?
I have said nothing that indicated I wasn't ready to fight for America. Again you stereo-type and lie.

And you are a bigot against Christians. There. Now we know who everybody is.

1) You don't even try to deny that you're bigotted against gays and liberals?
Wow. Rare burst of honesty from you...

2) I am not bigotted against Christians.
HOW am I bigotted against Christians?

Everyone on this forum who knows you knows you are bigoted against Christians. You just made a big deal about some Christians because they believe the end is near and they are happy. What the hell do you care? It doesn't affect you what they believe. They are hurting no one by their belief. The same argument you use on me to explain your beliefs. There is a word for that.

It seems that whenever you can't prove something, you proceed to make OTHER INACCURATE claims like "everyone knows" something, when the truth is that to the best of my recollection only you and Jefferson have ever accused me of being bigotted against Christians on this board.


The devil is in the details, and you're leaving out the details, as usual...
But regardless, the fact that they were Christians was IRRELEVANT to the situation.
We BOTH talked about how a LOT of Christians don't believe as they do.

I have come to the conclusion that since you can't think WITHOUT stereo-typing and bigotry, you can't imagine how other people talk without stereo-typing and bigotry.
In your head, is it possible to criticize SOME individual christians WITHOUT being bigotted against Christians?
It seems the answer is no...


Lordy. You're going to try and use THAT argument now?
Considering YOUR OWN arguments, I would think you SHOULD NOT try to back that horse...


What the hell are you babbling about here?
I typically talk about NOT DISCRIMINATING against people if it doesn't affect you or anybody else negatively.
This is JUST TALKING about people. I have never criticized JUST TALKING about people if those people don't affect you.

Geez. AGAIN you fail to comprehend simple concepts.

And as usual you fail to see yourself as a bigot. If I'm a bigot then so are you. I make fun of homos and you make fun of Christians. Tit for tat.