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Old 08-20-2006, 03:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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How in the hell would they be able to sneak in thousands of bombs, all wired together, located behind the walls of the WTC?? He is right that steel is rated at higher temps...but what happens when you heat any type of metal?? I'm an auto mechanic and I constantly use the torch on new england cars to free up bolts. I don't use the torch to melt the tie-rod bolts, or whatever i'm working on...I use it to weaken the metal so I can break it free!

The fuel from the airplanes weakened the structure of the WTC. When you weaken anything, it's design becomes unstable, warped, etc...COMMON SENSE (of which this MIT engineer lacks)

Like I have said before, you can be very smart, but have absolutely no common sense.
Yeah, you're right. But your argument goes out the window when we factor in the little fact that pools of molten metal was found beneath the debris. So obviously something was there to completely melt the steel. Fire from papers, desks, or even fuel can't do that. You would need an incendiary, like thermate. Which was found in the steel residue. Its the demolitions thermite plus sulfur. The sulfur makes it hotter, and it does indeed melt the steel, and a byproduct of the thermate reaction is yellow molten steel. Which was found at the WTC sites.
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Yeah, you're right. But your argument goes out the window when we factor in the little fact that pools of molten metal was found beneath the debris. So obviously something was there to completely melt the steel. Fire from papers, desks, or even fuel can't do that. You would need an incendiary, like thermate. Which was found in the steel residue. Its the demolitions thermite plus sulfur. The sulfur makes it hotter, and it does indeed melt the steel, and a byproduct of the thermate reaction is yellow molten steel. Which was found at the WTC sites.
Who said thermate was found in the steel residue? They also found lots of diamonds in the rubble.
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Controlled-demolition theory

The NIST report did not analyze the actual pattern of the WTC's collapse; the scope of the investigations was limited to the events leading up to the collapse: "The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. [This report] includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable."[15] The FEMA report, some say, also did not analyze the actual pattern of the collapse. (For further information on these reports, see 'Government Inquiry' below)
Skeptics of the progressive collapse, or "pancake" theory, say that there is ample evidence that the towers collapsed due to the systematic destruction of internal supports. Jim Hoffman, a researcher and software engineer, says that the telltale signs of controlled demolition, present in the WTC collapse, are:[16]
  • Radial symmetry: The Towers came straight down, blowing debris symmetrically in all directions.
  • Rapid descent: The Towers came down just slightly slower than the rate of free fall in a vacuum.
  • Demolition waves: The Towers were consumed by synchronized rows of confluent explosions.
  • Demolition squibs: The Towers exhibited high-velocity gas ejections well below the descending rubble.
  • Pulverization: The Towers' non-metallic components, such as their concrete floors, were pulverized into fine dust.
  • Totality: The Towers were destroyed totally, their steel skeletons shredded into short pieces, most less than 30 feet long.
  • Molten metal: A stream of liquid metal was videotaped[12] flowing out of the corner of 2 WTC moments before collapse, and eyewitnesses observed and reported pools of molten metal in all three rubble piles.
Steven E. Jones, a physics professor at Brigham Young University, and Judy Wood, a mechanical engineer at Clemson University, say that without the use of explosives to destroy the buildings' internal support structure, the fall of the towers violates conservation of momentum. [17] In addition, Dr. Jones says the angular momentum of the top of the South Tower as it began to collapse could not simply disappear, unless the center of mass of the top was somehow shattered and destroyed.[18] In addition, he says that the collapse of the towers at near free-fall speed indicates that the central core below the impact zone had lost its structural integrity and provided almost no resistance to the falling debris. The theory is also advocated by Jones's group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

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Who said thermate was found in the steel residue? They also found lots of diamonds in the rubble.
A scientific chemical analysis was done by a team lead by Professor Steven E. Jones. They found distinct traces of the thermate. We've been saying this many times. Have you just completely been disregarding everything people say just because they don't agree with you?
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A scientific chemical analysis was done by a team lead by Professor Steven E. Jones. They found distinct traces of the thermate. We've been saying this many times. Have you just completely been disregarding everything people say just because they don't agree with you?
You mean like you have disregarded presenting a news source stating 300,000 protesters with you shut down Washington DC? You mean something like that?
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You mean like you have disregarded presenting a news source stating 300,000 protesters with you shut down Washington DC? You mean something like that?
No not really, I already answered you twice. Perhaps if you read what I write you wouldn't keep asking.
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You mean like you have disregarded presenting a news source stating 300,000 protesters with you shut down Washington DC? You mean something like that?
Alias, by your own statements, your attempt to hijack this thread and change the subject is a clear sign of your dishonesty...

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No not really, I already answered you twice. Perhaps if you read what I write you wouldn't keep asking.
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Why are you people constantly attacking each other? Let us debate the issue at hand. So 9/11 was an inside job? OK. So if the World Trade Centers were rigged with explosives, then how do you explain the wreckage found at the Pentagon and in Shanksville, PA?
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