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Old 02-24-2007, 09:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. I want my 8 minutes back.
Shit I want the time for you that was spent on foreign soil for lies, 8 minutes is very minute Brother!

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The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Don't you think that to just consider the actual fact about how the present is written begs questions of every historical record?. It's the job of the Historian to try and make sense of all accounts in as impartial a way as possible.
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Don't you think that to just consider the actual fact about how the present is written begs questions of every historical record?. It's the job of the Historian to try and make sense of all accounts in as impartial a way as possible.
Yet, history is always written by the victors.
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Yet, history is always written by the victors.
It isn't though, not entirely. In modern history, although we, in the UK and USA, regard the history of the first and second world wars from the victors viewpoint we have more than enough access to accounts of those on the "defeated" sides.
I think the advent of mass communication , photography and investigative journalism have all but destroyed that belief. Now, nothing is believed. Older history is obviously harder to verify and corroborate but at least no one in their right mind believes that the account of the "victors" is an accurate account of what actually happened,
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History has always been written by and for the victors.
True, and written to support the victors agenda's over the conquereds interests, many times through religious influence.

For most of European history, only the elite or religious leaders had access to literature, which was often written in Latin, not the vernacular tongue of the peasantry. Most of the population was illiterate.
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Of course it has, more than once too, that is why it is so fascinating, wheat from chaff and all that........................
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From about 400ad to 1200ad the only people that could write were the religious leaders and the aristocrats. Does anything else need to be said?
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Democracy Now! | Over 170,000 Ancient Artifacts Have Been Destroyed Or Stolen From the National Museum of Iraq in Baghdad. We Will Go to Baghdad and Oxford to Talk About What Was Lost

The National Museum recorded a history of civilizations that began to flourish in the fertile plains of Mesopotamia more than 7,000 years ago.

Pre - bible!

What true history has been lost?
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The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
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