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No. "Several million" did not die in the 2 bombs on Japan. 300,000 is what I have heard in or around that number. If you have an article or history page that says "several million", I'd like to see it. Yes, they were innocent men, women, and children. President Truman told the Japanese what would happen if they did not unconditionally surrender. The leaders of Japan made the choice to not surrender, thus the first bomb dropped. Truman told them again, another bomb or unconditionally surrender. They said no. Guess what? Another atom bomb. Don't blame America for ending a war and saving American lives that would have been lost due invading Japan. The bombs ended the war and saved American lives. That is the purpose and the idea of war. Kill the enemy until he surrenders. Don't blame America. Japan started it. That's a good lesson. If you don't like getting beat up, don't pick fights. You're muslim brothers should think about that. We didn't start this. Muslims attacked us. The citizens of Japan did not attack us, but they died as a result of the policies of their leaders. If you muslims don't want to die, then I suggest you find different leaders and mind your own damn business and stop attacking us. Oh, by the way, leave Israel alone also. They have a right to live in peace as a nation. All you muslims help the Pals build a nation and be peaceful. Stop the suicide bombs, take off the suicide propaganda from your TVs, and grow up and help the Pals build a nation. Israel is not going anywhere. Learn to live with it or die. Last edited by alias; 01-07-2007 at 03:39 PM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| One wasn't enough. If it had been, they would have surrendered. To say one would have been more than enough doesn't take into account the fact that it wasn't enough. You might say, "one would have THOUGHT one would be enough", and I'd agree with that. regards, vharlow SongLyricsDatabase.com! Looking for those words? Check it out! As scarce as Truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --J. Billings | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| So drop them on a Japanese base, or an island occupied by Japanese forces or, at the very most, a civilian village. It was unnecessary to drop it on a city until there was no other choice. "Every time I hear the phrase 'Christian nation' I run to my car and blast a Slayer album at full volume." - Me | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I fear you are a bit late with this advice. regards, vharlow SongLyricsDatabase.com! Looking for those words? Check it out! As scarce as Truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --J. Billings | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| The Americans believed that the only way to make the Japanese to surrender was to inflict the heaviest casualites possible to end the war. Killing a couple hundred civilians with 2 bombs in pretty convincing. It worked. Last edited by alias; 01-07-2007 at 08:57 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| If you are familiar with the history of WWII, you would know that the strategy of bombing campaigns to wipe out a country's logistical industry was severely inefficient. There were really no considerable results on the battlefield. So, the primary target of fire-bombings of Japanese cities, Dresden, and the nucleaer strikes were it's civilian populace. This is something talked about openly. It was their attempt to bomb the hell out of the populace so the support of the Nazis would lessen. The contention behind the nuclear strikes was to defeat the morale of the Japanese by mass-killing innocent civilians, and force them into some kind of surrender. This is the very definition of terrorism. It's the same reasoning behind 9/11. As for the effectiveness of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I would say it was minimal. The fire bombings prior to the nuclear strikes were equally, if not more damaging. It didn't stop them. Bushido philosophy prevalent at the time in Japan thought it to be glorious to die fighting for the Emperor and the Empire. What the Japanese were afraid of more than any big bomb, was invasion of Japan proper, and harm to the Emperor, and/or the Imperial throne. So although I would say that the nuclear strikes had something to do with it, I think Germany falling, and consequently especially the Russian invasion of Japan had much more to do with their surrender. The Japanese saw that they basically lost the war, and on two fronts, it would have been inevitable that Japan would be occupied if they didn't draw terms. They would have been split up like Germany, between the Soviet Union and the US. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 Last edited by Katczinsky; 01-07-2007 at 09:12 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Armenian Genocide - Armeniapedia.org Armenian Genocide Photos - Armeniapedia.org The Russian people looked the other way? Your (sic) BBC - History - Hitler's Invasion of Russia in World War Two Russia - WWII - Table of Contents English Russia » Finnish Propaganda to Russian Soldiers During WW2 Live the Light, Give the Light, Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience. The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party: Stop the madness before us it stops! Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| DASTARDLY JAPS ATTACK COLONIALLY OCCUPIED U.S. NON-STATE--- The Onion Live the Light, Give the Light, Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day! I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience. The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party: Stop the madness before us it stops! Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek | |||||||||||||||||||||
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