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Old 01-22-2007, 06:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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African families sold their children into slavery, Arabs were main slave traders
That was a long time ago and nobody involved is still alive. It happened, get over it. When Jesse Jackson visited africa he thanked God that he was brought up in America.
Are we forever going to listen to stories about who killed Jesus?
Are we forever going to listen to stories about how Hitler killed jews?
Are we forever going to listen to stories about how Australians started out as convicts?
Are we forever going to have to listen to stories about how blacks were once slaves?
I guess we are, we enjoy these stories and even make movies about them.
Its all part of our heritage and part of the evolving world we live in.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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They've already had their reparations and apologies. They can look to the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendment passed in their honor, and just for those who were oppressed.
Old 01-22-2007, 08:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Are we forever going to listen to stories about who killed Jesus?
Are we forever going to listen to stories about how Hitler killed jews?
Are we forever going to listen to stories about how Australians started out as convicts?
Are we forever going to have to listen to stories about how blacks were once slaves?
so you're in favor of the Ozzie and Harrieting of America? Pretending that everything is all find and dandy when there is an infection just below the surface? I believe once the infection is acknowledge, the healing can begin. The healing can never begin when people are 'tired of hearing about it.' It's interesting how those who are 'tired of hearing about it' are never the victims of atrocities by their fellow man.
Old 01-23-2007, 06:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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so you're in favor of the Ozzie and Harrieting of America? Pretending that everything is all find and dandy when there is an infection just below the surface? I believe once the infection is acknowledge, the healing can begin. The healing can never begin when people are 'tired of hearing about it.' It's interesting how those who are 'tired of hearing about it' are never the victims of atrocities by their fellow man.
Well the fact is that all of the things mentioned have already been addressed and laws have been amended. In fact i would say that contant focus on PREVIOUS wrongs prevents people from righting TODAY'S wrongs.

Now i know that racism and anti-semitism still abounds, but you cannot ask a society to apologize for the opinions of a few people TODAY. The fact is that from an institutional perspective, these things have been fixed.

It is equally unfair to hold the son responsible for the sins of his father.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Apologies!
So, nowadays we have to apologize for things someone long dead, did to someone else, also long dead, right?

So, then, OF COURSE the Jews should apologize for killing Christ, the Christians should apologize for killing a LOT of people over the last 20 centuries. The Muslims should join the Christians in apologizing for the Crusades. Hollywood should just apologize. All of you non-Native Americans can apologize to me for being here, without my express permission, and I should apologize to you for my ancestors allowing your ancestors here in the first place! Does that about sum it up? Or did I forget an apology somewhere? If so, I'm sure the state of Virginia will apologize on my behalf!
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:41 AM   #16 (permalink)
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So, nowadays we have to apologize for things someone long dead, did to someone else, also long dead, right?
the things done to others were done by the government of the United States.

The government of the United States is long dead????

I realize that Bush is trying to make it so - but thus far, he has not succeeded.
Old 01-23-2007, 09:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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the things done to others were done by the government of the United States.

The government of the United States is long dead????

I realize that Bush is trying to make it so - but thus far, he has not succeeded.
The Government held slaves? The Government? I think maybe you should go back to middle-school history.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:54 AM   #18 (permalink)
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the government ALLOWED legal slave trade, braintrust.

Please - let's NOT get into who-knows-what-and-how-much - 'kay? Because you're gonna lose.
Old 01-23-2007, 10:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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the government ALLOWED legal slave trade, braintrust.

Please - let's NOT get into who-knows-what-and-how-much - 'kay? Because you're gonna lose.
Okey-dokey pokey! BTW, The government also allowed legal abortion
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:23 AM   #20 (permalink)
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the government allowed legal abortion???

you mean, it doesn't now???
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